Questions for the GMs

[Ikoma Honoka]

LM is probably best. Might need her elsewhere EM. Go ahead and thread me when ready.

Done!

[Ikoma Honoka]

Art for art’s sake is a wonderful concept, but has little place in an Imperial Court. Whether you intend to send a message or not, a message will be read by the inquisitive (and sometimes depraved) minds around you. Far better to control that message.

Make a contested Courtier (Manipulation)/Awareness, Games: Sadane (Intelligence) roll, or Intimidation/Willpower roll. Assume your opponent (who is left to your imagination, but should not be a figure of High Status or a PC without their player’s permission) has rolled a neat 20 on their corresponding roll. Techniques or advantages that modify contested rolls of these types apply. You receive 1 Art point for a successful roll, and 1 additional Art point per Raise.

Does Bentens Blessing work on this?

[Fukurokujin]

Art for art’s sake is a wonderful concept, but has little place in an Imperial Court. Whether you intend to send a message or not, a message will be read by the inquisitive (and sometimes depraved) minds around you. Far better to control that message.

Make a contested Courtier (Manipulation)/Awareness, Games: Sadane (Intelligence) roll, or Intimidation/Willpower roll. Assume your opponent (who is left to your imagination, but should not be a figure of High Status or a PC without their player’s permission) has rolled a neat 20 on their corresponding roll. Techniques or advantages that modify contested rolls of these types apply. You receive 1 Art point for a successful roll, and 1 additional Art point per Raise.

Does Bentens Blessing work on this?

This is more a broadcast than a persuasion, so not this time.

[Ikoma Honoka]

I don't understand part 3 of the event, for this

Should you choose this option, your patron must support the same Wind as you.

Are you basically picking a NPC to recognise you? Or is it an unnamed person and they just support the wind of your choice? Or is it a player - if so what if no player passes that supports the same wind? Same as if it's the NPC, as majority haven't declared on a wind as far as I can tell

[Cearnach]

You're picking an NPC from the delegations (full delegations are listed in the thread with that title in the Almanac). We did envision players lobbying high-influence NPCs from the delegations for Winds, but that hasn't really materialized. What we'll do in this case is that the NPC you choose just does back the Wind of your choice if you're picking off the delegation list. If you're picking a daimyo or other guy with a picture, this list of leanings will help. We will post this to the event as well.

Wind Leanings Note, these are not formal declarations.

Keihime
Otomo Tooru
Otomo Mariko
Matsu Tsuruyo
Kitsune Aiko
Moshi Akane
Ichiro Himari
Chou-sin
Mirumoto Tsukahara
Kasuga Genjiko

Gorobei
Ikoma Ryota
Gusai Rioshida
Hiruma Ichika
Ichiro Aoi

Tomaru
The Elemental Council (minus Sorami)
Shiba Rumiko
Heichi Batsuda
Agasha Akari
Yogo Tenka

Noriko
Kakita Hajime
Doji Minehime
Akodo Sanae
Isawa Sorami (Master of Water)
Shiba Higashime [Tomaru sympathies]
Suzume Ryobu
Kakita Sorashi
Asahina Junpei
Daidoji Irumi


Tatsuya
Abbot Do
Bokushi
Asako Ainojo [very quietly]

Neutral
Seppun Sadako
Miya Hachi
Togashi Mizohachi
Bayushi Kaguya
Kaiu Masahiko [inching toward Tatsuya]
Kasuga Izumi
Hida Gendo
Hida Kozume
Kuni Mirabu
Yasuki Ameiko
Kitsu Shintaro
Shosuro Ryusei
Soshi Michiko
Kitsune Fumihito
Suzume Hanae

[Ikoma Honoka]

That's very helpful, thank you!

So we can't pick anyone neutral to get them on a winds side? Just one of the leanings?

If you haven't publicly declared for any wind yourself are you not allowed to pick the Courtier/awareness option?

[Cearnach]

If you mean to present as neutral, even if you aren't neutral in your heart of hearts, then you cannot pick an aligned option. The patron has to be able to see that your art has this political purpose, and obviously can't do that if it doesn't have one. You could pick a neutrally-aligned person, though.

If you want to use this to make a declaration, it might be a good venue. You could pick an aligned patron in that case, but doing so would serve as your declaration.

As for getting someone on the Wind's side, you can choose one of the non-Daimyo NPCs from the delegation rosters.

[Ikoma Honoka]

Does part 3 (Courtier/Awareness roll) on the Garden of Earthly Delights event count as opposed/contested? Also does Benten's work on this?

I may just be misunderstanding it still

[Cearnach]

No to both.

[Akodo Kenji]

In the art event, if you fail on the third roll (to find a patron) do you still get the glory reward, it's just that no one wants to have tea with you?

Or do you still get the rewards listed just without getting to specify who is your patron (i.e. GMs decide)?

[Asahina Hoshiko]

In the art event, if you fail on the third roll (to find a patron) do you still get the glory reward, it's just that no one wants to have tea with you?

Or do you still get the rewards listed just without getting to specify who is your patron (i.e. GMs decide)?

I'll saves some time, since I asked the same thing.

For the Art event, failing step 3 'Profit' means...? Since the event outcomes mostly seem to assume a patron, ending up with points in those ranges but failing 3 means--drop the patron bit off the reward? Fail overall because nice art, but nobody's watching?

Missed the Benten's Touch ruling above or I might not even be asking because that last roll only failed by 1. XD

Yes, you'd still get the glory because you produced the artwork, but not the rewards associated with patronage.

[Akodo Kenji]

Thank you kindly!

Edit: I succeeded at the patron roll in the end

[Isawa Shingo]

If you mean to present as neutral, even if you aren't neutral in your heart of hearts, then you cannot pick an aligned option. The patron has to be able to see that your art has this political purpose, and obviously can't do that if it doesn't have one. You could pick a neutrally-aligned person, though.

If you want to use this to make a declaration, it might be a good venue. You could pick an aligned patron in that case, but doing so would serve as your declaration.

As for getting someone on the Wind's side, you can choose one of the non-Daimyo NPCs from the delegation rosters.

I think I'm tracking all this. To get someone to declare for a Wind via your art, they must A be a faceless NPC from the delegations or B be a daimyo or whatever with a face who's already leaning toward supporting that wind. Assuming that reading is correct, how would B work with someone like an Elemental Master, who has leanings but isn't at Court to see your art and be moved by it?

[Yogo Kiuchi]

Would Kiuchi be able to try to create ward to repel or capture the gaki spirit? The Yogo School doesn't really give rules for such things.

[Hiruma Daichi]

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=262&p=15068#p15068

something here.

[Yasuki Masaki]

Related to the above:

Would Masahiko be free for a meeting on D11 MA (after court)? For one or both of those matters.

[Fukurokujin]

Would Kiuchi be able to try to create ward to repel or capture the gaki spirit? The Yogo School doesn't really give rules for such things.

This would be a function of Spellcraft, in which you would be adjusting or amending prayers to specific purposes.

[Cearnach]

I think I'm tracking all this. To get someone to declare for a Wind via your art, they must A be a faceless NPC from the delegations or B be a daimyo or whatever with a face who's already leaning toward supporting that wind. Assuming that reading is correct, how would B work with someone like an Elemental Master, who has leanings but isn't at Court to see your art and be moved by it?

In that case, assume that they are acting through an intermediary. Someone writes them a note. The patronage offer comes later, but we are handwaving the logistical time for the purposes of the event.

[Yasuki Masaki]

Questions on Patron choice for the Garden of Jade Delights.

1) I think most (maybe all?) so far went with the Courtier roll for Stage 3 and I couldn't see a clear answer anywher - if this is somewhere and I missed it, I apologise in advance!

For the list of "Important NPCs" (those whose 'wind leanings' are noted in the sheet), do we have a full list of the Wealth and Influence of their houses to decide on who we could pick if we go for the Commerce or Lore: Heraldry roll instead?

In my case, specifically, I went with Commerce (how surprising...), so Wealth is my main concern, but would be neat to have both if it ends up being necessary.

2) I assume we automatically declare to a Wind if we dedicate our work to them? So we couldn't keep neutral *and* influence a patron towards a wind at the same time? Sounds logical, but just to confirm!

3) And finally - is the choice of dedicating the work to a wind and dedicating to a wind *restricted* to those who choose Courtier/Awa for Step 3? Or could those of us who follow the Koku (or the Influence!) also choose to dedicate the work to a wind and influence the Patron based on that?

Question 3 is in part based on the fact that one *could* possibly choose an NPC who leans towards a different Wind than yourself and/or your work. So I'm not quite sure how that would work.

Thanks!

[Cearnach]

Folks on the Daimyo lists are all Daimyo. Their wealth and influence stats are enormous, and all immediately qualify for these purposes. On the NPC delegation lists, the people uppermost on the lists (the first 4 people) qualify.

2) Yes.

3) No. If you're just hunting for money or influence, you don't get to interact with the winds in the same way as if you chose option 3. You're making an artwork for the purpose of getting money or power, not to make a political point. It's sort of like Abstract Expressionism: it tends to sell really well to businesses, because the average viewer doesn't say "oh, this is advocating social change," or "oh, war is bad," so it doesn't drive away business. It *does* carry emotional content and messages about art creation, but those things tend not to drive away people who want to spend money.